On the CSIC Linkedin group, I responded to the question “Is there a cultural element to intellectual property theft in China?” by writing:
If they think they will benefit from stealing your IP and they can get away with it, they will do it.
And another member of the group, Buck from the China Performance Group, wrote a very thoughtful response that I am pasting below in its near entirety:
I don’t think that the “if they think they can get away with it and benefit they’ll do it” mentality is unique to Chinese society. In most societies there will never be a shortage of people who will take advantage of others if a lack of legal protection exists. The difference in the West is that a robust legal framework is in place that could give the impression that we are perhaps “morally superior”.
I think that rather than it being a moral deficiency, practices such as IP protection are just culturally not held in the same regard for Chinese as it is for us in the West. For example, I’ll often collaborate on reports with my Chinese colleagues, who are from relatively good backgrounds, proficient in English, and with a good education, and yet part of my job is to actively identify plagiarism. These are honest and hardworking Chinese professionals, and yet when I tell them of the legal risk it puts us in or the danger to our reputation that could result from copying and pasting directly from Wikipedia or Baidu, they are legitimately surprised.
In the West, we have it drilled into us that when we use somebody’s work, you have to give them their due credit, and teachers will diligently weed out plagiarism. We are often even graded on our annotations and bibliographies. I don’t know this for sure, but I would assume this isn’t the same in the Chinese education system. When I tell my colleagues that copying is fine, you just have to provide the source of the information, again they seem to have been previously unaware of this option. So you can see, copying is just not seen in a negative moral light in the same way it is in the West.
I would have to agree with Michael on this one. I think one factor is definitely the notion of personal space that exists in China simply as a result of the sheer size of their population. I think another would actually be cultural as originating from Confucian practices. If you look at the ancient system of testing and qualifying for prestigious government positions, those interested had go through rigorous testing on their knowledge of the Analects of Confucius. However, if you look at the examinations, it was not generally your opinion or analysis of the texts being tested, but rather how perfectly you had memorized them. The exams were an evaluation of your ability to reproduce highly regarded intellectual material. This went on for centuries, and though we may see something wrong with that in the West, it worked very well for the Chinese for a long time as they maintained a position as one of the most politically and intellectually advanced nations on the planet for hundreds of years. “Copying” is fundamentally part of the Chinese culture and in fact used to be considered a highly regarded skill.
Does every one agree with this? I think Buck makes a few good points.
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Related reading: Why doesn’t China value intellectual property rights?
Fiona says
It s indeed thoughtful and good points.
I would say it s about the “thousands of years and still continuing culture”which is very much bound up with “politics”.Confucius is being highly praised by the governor because it s about Obscurantic. “people”itself is innocent,depends on the way how they are being governed.
On the other hand,copying isn’t only in China.
Curmugedon says
China is, compared to north european countries (including the anglophone settler nations) a low trust society, with a shame based rather than guilt based morality. There’s a reason the average chinese person is less trusting when dealing with his countryman than the average swede. We should be too. The author willingly concedes that different cultural systems produce different behavior in “morally neutral” settings but refuses to believe that any people varies in their adherence to our particular christian(/ish) form of morality. Cause that would be mean, and possibly racist. Fortunately this kind of stubborn naivete matters little in business. People will figure out how stuff works and adapt, or go broke.
Curmugedon says
Ugh. I should have edited that for grammar and punctation.
Curmudgeon says
punctuation* … good god
Renaud Anjoran says
Curmugedon,
It is difficult to see what comes from morality/amorality and what comes from cultural habits. But you are right, it is not wise to trust a Chinese person if you are outside of her very close circle (family, close friends, close business partners).